He was spokesman for the Vox party in the Cortes of Castile and León for ten months and managed, in spite of his violent tone, to relieve the tension which had begun in the legislature after the arrival of his party. The loyal square of Abascal and the Gardens … A debate that places him, alongside the president of the Cortes, Carlos Polan, as a candidate for the council in the regional elections in March. For now, his target is the “goroño”, the paper containing his party’s demands that Council President Alfonso Fernández Manyueco compiled and threw on the floor during the plenary session. Through it, he now intends to negotiate the 2026 budgets.
– Last year, Vox did not sit down with the board to negotiate budgets. This year, in principle, it could be so. What has changed?
– What happened in 2024 is that we did not receive a response from Economy Minister Carlos Fernandez Carriedo.
-And this time yes?
– At this moment they have not contacted us. Last year, when I started the round of contacts with the parliamentary groups, we sent an email and asked him to respond to us if he was in a position to accept any of the proposals, which are the Goronyo proposals, and we did not receive any response. This year we will bring you the same thing again and this time in person.
-If the council says no to that, is there anything we can talk about?
-clearly. The Vox Party will not give in one iota in its claims and actions, neither with the claims of Goronyo nor with those that we offer it, for example, to solve the problem of fires. But these proposals were not accepted by the People’s Party anywhere else. They signed budgets with them in Valencia, in the Balearic Islands, in Murcia…
– But not in Extremadura.
– Because if there is any definite branch left for PP, it is the progressive branch. This is the position of Guardiola, Manico, Figo, and Gonzalez Ponce, the official spokesman for the People’s Party in Brussels who defends the Green Charter, the 2030 Agenda, and the attack on our industry, and on our national and food sovereignty… We will ask him if he is ready to put an end to all this.
“Honestly, do you have any hope that they’ll be willing?”
-I think the only thing Maneko wants to do is keep his chair. This budget was born dead as an electoral propaganda tool by order of the National President of the People’s Party. What hope does Vox have in a budget that even the People’s Party doesn’t believe in? no one. If Maneko abandons the Green Charter, the 2030 Agenda, removes support for unions, and renounces illegal immigration…
– In your training, do you look with suspicion at what is happening in Valencia during negotiations with the People’s Party?
– Vox always stands for the same thing everywhere. When a budget agreement was reached with Mazzone, Manyico said it was not valid for Castilla and Lyon because it was an urgent matter there. Now, after the burning of 140,000 hectares and the absolute display of ineptitude and incompetence in management last year, I believe we are in a state of emergency in the EU. So Manyweko must put aside the proposal of agreements to the Socialist Workers’ Party on the benches and sit down to talk to Fox.
– They accuse you of siding with the Socialist Workers’ Party, according to the Popular Party, and another side with the Popular Party, according to the Socialists.
-I don’t think the People’s Party will find Vox’s relations with PSOE effective. No one believes this anymore, especially since Fox is the one who puts all the officials and criminals of the Socialist Party on the bench. How many agreements did Fox offer to the Socialist Party? no one. How many agreements did Maniweko offer to the PSOE? every year. He makes a fuss about Vox with his proposals and despises them, rolls out the red carpet for the Socialist Party and sets up big community agreements, as well as budgets.
The negotiation offer launched by the President of the Bureau was for all parties.
– Yes, and also for the Socialist Party, which is the party in which public officials sit on the bench. If Maneko is not interested in negotiating with the SWP or with Vox, who will explain it to his voters?
– But the Vox party voted in the Cortes on more than one initiative with the Socialists, as in the case of the Institutional Declaration Law.
The bulk of the law are amendments presented by the Vox Party and received the support of the Socialist Workers’ Party and other parliamentary groups. What we did not do was vote against the law that we presented to the People’s Party, as they did with the Accord Law. And we don’t negotiate an LGBTBI law or a sexual violence law like they do with socialists.
– Why do you agree poorly with the People’s Party?
-It’s not a question of getting along poorly or getting along well. In other areas we have reached agreements, but here they are breaking the measures offered by Vox, ignoring its initiatives, rolling out the red carpet for the Socialist Party, and restoring all the progressive policies that we abolished when we were in government, such as subsidies for unions.
– But the relationship here is worse than it is in other regions or between national directorates.
– In my first appearance as spokesman for these Cortes, I told Manueco that we should try to reach some kind of agreement, and what he did was to say that the Vox party had been broken, that we were just a leftover party and a meat grinder. Time has put it in its place, and the citizens of Castilla de León also put it before reality because neither the People’s Party of Castile and León holds more than 50 seats, nor Manico Herrera. So, you can’t expect Vox to remain PP’s “pim pam pum” puppet or for us to be her band.
– According to the polls, everything indicates that the Vox Party could be decisive in forming the government with the People’s Party.
-It’s too far away. Now we are waiting, for example, for the law to stop wind energy and the law for places that are difficult to occupy. What about March? We will see what support the citizens give us, and how decisive we are, but the reality is that the Vox Party is unstoppable. It cannot be stopped because the Spaniards and the citizens of Castilla León realize that this does not lead to anything either with the Popular Party or with the Socialist Workers Party.
—In hypothetical negotiations between the PP-Vox parties to form the government, will they return with the Goronyo?
– Our actions can be predicted, and these are the principles that Fox defends when he sits down to negotiate. When Fox comes to an agreement, he keeps his word and if his partner breaks his word and advocates for illegal immigration, as illegal immigration is one of the basic foundations of Fox’s policies, we leave.
-You say that the Vox Party is so unstoppable that you ask the People’s Party for a candidate other than Maneko in the negotiations?
– Vox’s intention is to go out and win. Maneko says he will win and rule alone. Fox emerges to win by an absolute majority.
-You know it won’t be like that.
– Well, this has reached Italy when no one said it could reach, to Argentina and the United States and it will certainly reach France.
-Spain is “different”.
– It’s no different. They want to convince us that the goal is to preserve the two-party system because they fear losing the system they built. Spain is no exception to the rest of the world.
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