Sandra Regina Ruiz Gomez, known as Sandrao, broke her silence in an interview with Roberto Cabrini, on Domingo Especacular, and spoke frankly about life between Susan von Richthofen and Elise Matsunaga inside Tremembe prison. The two women, convicted of crimes that shocked the country, became involved with Sandrau.
According to her, the dynamic between the two was calmer than it seemed. He revealed, “At first it was normal. They were not friends, because Susan was not friends with many people.”
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When asked if Suzanne was jealous of Elise, Sandrow admitted: “I think at a certain point yes, when I was with Elise.”
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The interview also shed light on details about Sandraw’s involvement with the two prisoners, especially after the repercussions of the Prime Video series, which reignited the matter. “Elise and I became really good friends. There were pauses between me and Susan. Elise fell out of the friendship and suddenly we looked at each other differently,” he said.
When comparing the relationships, Sandrau highlighted the following: “With Susan it was something intense. Something that continued. Something that never ended, that always left that reserve. With Elise it was something that we became good friends at that time,” he explained.
For Sandrao, despite their differences, the two had one thing in common: “They are both attractive, and they both know how to captivate you.”
First kiss
Sandrau emphasized in the interview that he truly fell in love with Richthofen and recalled the first kiss between the two. “I fell in love with it. I think she does too. The mask doesn’t last 24 hours a day,” he said.
“We were at work, and at the moment I was arranging the equipment, there was just us, we looked at each other and turned. We kissed. It was a risk. Imagine it was reported in the media that Susanne von Richthofen was caught by a dam and was punished. It was a very big risk,” he explained.
Susanne von Richthofen didn’t want people to know about the romance: “She didn’t want people to know. People found out later. No one was punished because when she revealed it, when she decided she wanted to be with me, it was already allowed.”
“We lived a story. It was fine for me. If there was manipulation at some point as they say, I don’t see it. But if there was, it’s okay. At the time I was with her, I was happy,” Sandraw said.