A repentant Clarence told how he transferred the money to one of Kirchner’s properties

Before TOF 7, the financier detailed the illegal payments circle operation that, according to his testimony, surrounded Kirchner Public Works

11/26/2025 – 12:52 pm

On the fourth day of the oral trial before Cause laptopsthe financier Ernesto Clarence Once again detailed before the Federal Oral Court 7 mechanisms Illegal collection He said it first worked in Santa Cruz and was then replicated nationally. His testimony, which he originally gave in 2018 when he entered the regime, described his relationship with Kirchner marriage They were consolidated in exchange for kickbacks linked to illicit payments from contractors, according to the statement obtained by Noticias Argentinas.

The origin of the department and accredited businessmen

Clarence noted that during his reign Nestor Kirchner in Holy Cross There was a small group of companies licensed to work on regional public works. He said that in his presentation “There were five companies that could operate in the South.” And that this plan was transmitted to the rest of the country as soon as Kirchner arrived at Casa Rosada.

He further added: ““They shared the business among themselves, they were a little brotherhood… Those companies gave disproportionate returns to Governor Kirchner, and the same thing happened here (in Buenos Aires) when Kirchner was president.”.

How money is transferred and the role of intermediaries

The financier described that the department included receiving bags of money which, he was told, had to be divided among the different recipients. “I had to separate part of it and give it to Lázaro BaezHe said, adding:I assume these were given to Nestor Kirchner“.

He also recounted specific requests to facilitate the transfer of funds: “At a certain point (Daniel) Muñoz He tells me to try to bring 500 euro notes because they take up less space.

Delivery to hotels and apartment in Recoleta

Clarence confirmed that the deliveries were primarily coordinated with Daniel Muñoz, Nestor Kirchner’s deceased private secretary. He explained that many operations were carried out in Panamericano HotelWhere the Secretary resided, or in the province of Juncal and Uruguay due to the presidential marriage.

“Muñoz was waiting for me in the hall on the ground floor of the building, and I never went up to the apartmentHe explained, noting that the size of the money determines where it is delivered.

Testimony of Fabian Gutierrez and movements in El Calafate

Clarence’s testimony is added to the deceased’s testimony as well Fabian Gutierrezwho provided details about the trips and baggage transfers handled by Muñoz. “On most flights, Daniel Muñoz carried suitcases with locks that he was the only one to touch and which were located in the back of the plane, after the presidential area… and were said to contain money.“, he declared before the justice.

Regarding those arriving to the Southern Residency, he said: “On those trips, “When we arrived at El Calafate’s residence and Muñoz arrived, Nestor Kirchner made us leave.”

Restricted sector within housing

Gutierrez also described an area of ​​the presidential residence that he was unable to access. “I didn’t see closets in that house but there was a placep., down the stairs, where there was a closed white door, where we secretaries said, “There was the story.”According to his testimony, this was the only restricted space inside the house where he could generally move freely.