The driver Magaly Medinaat the interview Juan Ichazoreceived the video call from Johana Cubillaswho intervened to “speak his truth.” But far from finding understanding, Magaly confronted them firmly, revealing the strained relationship between both parents and the impossibility of reaching agreements for the benefit of their children.
In this context, the presenter reminded her of the conflict she has with her own father, the former football player. “Nene” Cubillasand pointed out that these unresolved patterns could repeat themselves in her current life with her children.
The presenter decided to address not only the dispute between Johana and her ex-partner, but also personal aspects that, as she noted, are part of the background that surrounds the model today. During the conversation, Medina referred to the relationship that Johana maintains with her father, the historic footballer, a situation that, in her opinion, influences the way the young woman deals with her current problems.
“Deal with your past things and don’t repeat patterns in your life. The same patterns your mother suddenly tried on you“Medina told her firmly. For the host, the distance that Johana maintains from her father is not an isolated event, but rather part of a cycle that could be repeated today in the dynamic that the model maintains with the father figure of her children.
“So you’re fighting with your father. But then you fight with your father. So address the patterns that make you respond to life.” he insisted.
After mentioning, Joanna He didn’t avoid the topic and reacted with obvious discomfort. “I argue with my father“, she said at first, generating even more questions. The model specified: “I argue with my father because he doesn’t want to talk to me, because I tried to be friends with my father more than once without caring about the money, without caring about anyone.“.
For the driver, however, such reactions are part of an emotional pattern that can inadvertently be transferred to her relationship with the father of her children. “But you would have to break that pattern, well, Johana. Break this pattern, break this pattern. And that your children don’t repeat the same pattern“, he warned.
Medina’s call was direct: The model should think about how her personal history could affect the education of minors. “Don’t force your children to one day behave like you did when they were their age. Don’t do that“, he noted, emphasizing the importance of working on his emotional story.
But the tension grew when Johana assured in the middle of the conversation: “Because I’m not a bad mother“. To which Magaly replied without a filter: “It’s just, “I live for and for my children,” this self-sacrificing mother thing, I don’t believe anyone. Lie. A lot of mothers hide behind it: “Oh, the victim.” I am a self-sacrificing mother.’ Lie, but you will cause incredible harm to your children“.
At no point did the driver withdraw from her position. For her, the sentence repeated by Johana is not synonymous with healthy upbringing. “Heal, heal so you don’t have to manipulate your children one way or another. And never put her in the middle of a relationship, let alone a breakup relationship.“, he emphasized.
Despite the warnings, Johana insisted her goal was for the children to maintain contact with their father. “It’s all about getting them to go out with their father because they never want to see their father.” he said. However, the explanation did not convince Medina, who openly expressed his frustration:
“You’re really making me desperate. I had you on this podcast for forty-five minutes and didn’t lose patience because there was a producer standing next to me telling me not to do it, but I’ve come to the same conclusion now“, he added.
Magaly even reached out to Juan Ichazo, Johana’s ex-partner, to clarify the issue. “Thank you, Juan, for this connection. Thank you, Johanna. I wasn’t going to agree with Juan, but based on her attitude and what I saw on my podcast, I really have to agree with him. In other words, she’s the one who doesn’t solve her problems for me.“, he explained with absolute clarity.
The host expanded her reflection to include mothers who, she said, used victimhood speech as an emotional shield. “And mothers, let’s stop bullying ourselves: “I am the mother and father of my children.” I give everything for her, I kill for her.’ Yes? Do you kill for them and expose them to the screaming, expose them to the police? Is this murder for your children? Is this what it means to be a good mother? NO“.
“As mothers we make a lot of mistakes, let’s be clear about it. Let’s go to a psychologist, let’s treat our problems from behind so that they don’t go through the same things as us, and when they grow up they won’t have the same problems as they do now, for example.“, he claimed.
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